Episode 132: Care More. Be Better — with Corinna Bellizzi

Corinna Bellizzi is a natural products industry executive and social benefit entrepreneur. In her professional life as the head of marketing and sales for her clients, she champions social benefit programs to enhance brand development and company impact.

In January 2021 she launched her show, “Care More. Be Better: A Social Impact + Sustainability Podcast” to amplify the efforts of inspired individuals and conscious companies. Through Care More. Be Better, she shares their stories in an effort to show us all that one person with one idea can have a big impact. No subject is off limits — as she covers topics from refugee relief to payday lending and everything in-between.

During this episode, you will hear Corinna talk about:

• How she wanted to create an impact on the world with her podcast
• The “Calls to Action” she includes for her listeners on her podcast
• How important it is to donate time and skills to organizations
• Why it is important to connect with others, even if they are far away
• How her podcast helped her stay connected during the pandemic
• Her future plans for her podcast as the world begins to open back up

To find out more about Corinna and her podcast, visit www.caremorebebetter.com or her social media links:

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The episode transcript is below.

Carolyn Kiel: Hello, and welcome to the Beyond 6 Seconds podcast. I’m your host, Carolyn Kiel. And today I am very happy to be here with my guest Corinna Bellizzi. Corinna is a natural products, industry executive and social benefit entrepreneur. who’s earned a reputation for growing brands quickly. In her professional life as the head of marketing and sales for her clients, she champions social benefit programs to enhance brand development and company impact. In January 2021 she launched her show, Care More, Be Better, a social impact and sustainability podcast to amplify the efforts of inspired individuals and conscious companies. Through Care More, Be Better, she shares their stories in an effort to show us all that one person with one idea can have a big impact. No subject is off limits as she covers topics from refugee relief to payday lending and everything in between. Corinna, welcome to the podcast.

Corinna Bellizzi: Thank you so much for having me.

Carolyn Kiel:  Yeah, so excited to have you here. I’m a big fan of your podcast as well. And so glad that we met up as podcasters and so excited to learn more about your show.

Corinna Bellizzi: Thank you. Well, the feeling’s mutual. I love listening to the insights you have about all these really incredible individuals.

Carolyn Kiel: All right. Thank you. So, yeah, so, so tell me, how do you get the inspiration to start Care More, Be Better?

Corinna Bellizzi: You know, I’ve spent the last two years in graduate school earning my MBA and it’s a little bit silly because I’ve gone back to school after 20 something years of being a professional and. You know, I’ve really been questioning a lot, what it was I wanted to do next. Is there something I want to do differently?

And the one thing I kept coming back to is that I wanted to really put more good out into the world and I get to do a lot of that through my work, which is great, but I always felt like I wasn’t able to do enough. And my interests have varied from something like, I want it to save the sea turtle and I want to further this social justice initiative, or I want to go ahead and ensure global warming becomes less of a problem.

All of these things kind of multiply and then make me feel like, heck what can I do to do all of these things at once? And it just kind of came back to this one centered idea. If I started a podcast and if I started to interview people that were working in these different areas, I could get their message out there to more people, inspire others to get involved and also inspire people to understand that they’re not always staring up Mount Everest. They can take some small change in their daily lives and have an impact as well. So, I mean, that’s really been, it it’s like an amplification effort to amplify what great people are already doing to impact the world in a positive way, from a social perspective, and also from a sustainability perspective.

Carolyn Kiel: Okay. Yeah, that’s fantastic. It’s so important to share those stories. There’s, there’s a lot of them out there, but we don’t always get to hear about them. So really cool platform.

Corinna Bellizzi: And I think some, some unsung heroes are really out there that they need a little help to get that story out there as well.

Right. Yeah. You know, I’ve been, had a good fortune of being connected to some really great, not for profits over the course of my professional career. And so I get to kind of dig into each of those as well and say, let me tell your story in a different way to a different audience, let’s reach other people.

Let’s see what we can do as a collective to push forward more good. So that’s really the root of it. And to be frank, you know, I get up in the morning with a spring in my step to do this, in addition to my daily workload, in addition to my daily Scholastic load, in addition to being a mom and a wife and all of those other roles, all those other hats that we get to wear.

Carolyn Kiel: Wow. Yeah, that’s amazing. So cool. So, you know, would love to learn a little bit more about your podcast and, you know, we both have interview types of podcast, so I’m curious, how do you pick the guests that you want to feature?

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. You know, I, I tend to follow kind of my own little rabbit hole perspective.

I might be doing a little bit of research as a, for instance, into what’s happening in financial technology. And, you know, there’s one episode in particular where I happened to cover that because I spent. You know, about six months off and on researching what payday loans and payday lending was really like. My motivation there was trying to understand how people who are struggling to get by during this pandemic are dealing with their need to make rent. I mean, it’s a very simple question, right? When we know that in 2018, 40% of people couldn’t afford an emergent expense of $400. So suddenly if they’re without a job and also not getting COVID relief for months or for weeks on end, then how are they going to pay their bills to keep a roof over their head? How are they going to continue putting one foot in front of the other and supporting a family? So in looking at that more deeply, I discovered this company Earnin that is basically in the financial tech space that helps to give people advances on their paychecks.

Right? And it’s, you know, a simple thing. But without like these big onerous fees that you might see at that traditional brick and mortar lender, you know, so just digging into that wormhole I ended up discovering several different companies in the space, some of which are not-for-profit. And some of which are for-profit.

I got to interview Josh Sanchez about his company FloatMe. I believe that was episode seven. If I recall correctly. And he shared why he developed his company, you know, he had a challenge making his bills when they came due because he got into a car accident. He was injured. I mean, these simple things that affect so many people that we sometimes get a little far from, because we’re comfortable in our home with our four walls.

So. I, I dug into that as one example and another, you know, I’ve been looking at the refugee crisis on a global scale. I got to interview Kayra Martinez in my first episode. She’s someone I’ve known for years. And she also has leveraged art as a way to reach people who are living in refugee camp, refugee camps in Greece to help them express themselves.

And then also sell that art to benefit them so that they can reenter society more healthfully, that they can become a productive member of society as opposed to sleeping on a park bench. So when we’re talking about these two very real problems and the crisis that they’re in. You know, I just think we need to talk about these things.

We need to think about these things. We need to understand that the person living on the street isn’t necessarily really there by choice. And I think often our perspective is that, well, Oh, it must be drugs or it must be alcohol. And that’s the excuse I hear more often than not from people who don’t want to talk about it.

So I think by telling these stories, And by understanding the complex nature of, you know, just making a living in the modern age, that, that we can get a little bit deeper, have a more meaningful conversation and hopefully create change that will be positive.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, I think it’s, it’s again, so important to share those stories because it, you know, it’s, there’s so many, there’s so many issues and it can be complex to really understand them. So I think bringing those stories forward really helps clarify, like what. You know, what’s really going on and and what kind of struggles people have and, and the impacts that come through it. So, yeah, really powerful.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. I was thinking about this the other day though. I think part of the reason I even started the podcast is I didn’t want to bore the heck out of my family every time, something else, I need to talk to you about what they’re doing and animal testing, you know, like it feels sometimes like in my personal life, I can be on a bit of a soap box.

And so if I’m going to use the podcast in a way to take care of that, to scratch that itch and to get that message out to other people who are receptive, who wanted to hear about it, who want to talk about the social challenges that we’re facing, or the sustainability concerns that we might all face. I mean, I’m I want to be a minimalist and I say that I want to be a minimalist because I’m also a little bit of a hoarder.

I have a hard time letting go of things that have meaning to me, you know, it could be a book that got signed by an author that I like or, or whatever. And, you know, as we’ve gone through this last year in particular, I mean, I go to get a cup of coffee and I stare at the cup that it has to be given to me and now, and I find it upsetting.

It’s almost like an emotional assault for me personally, because I don’t like the waste that I’m generating. So then, you know, I have this pulpit where I can talk about sustainability and how are we all coping with this? And you know, this is part of the COVID challenge. So what are you doing instead of, you know, let’s say using all those plastic bags at the grocery store. Are you bringing your own, well, guess what you can’t anymore. So what else might you do? And, and, you know, just asking these questions and talking about it is something I’m personally finding rewarding.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, no. And, and there’s definitely a, a whole audience of people who are interested in these, in having these discussions and hearing about what they can do to, to make things better in the world. And I understand you have calls to action in your episodes, sort of the, towards the end or separately. How did you kind of get the idea to add that piece, and and how do you come up with those calls to action?

Corinna Bellizzi: Oh, you know, this actually came as a suggestion from another podcaster I listen to, which is the B-Sides. The B-Sides is, you know, it’s a review of pop music.

It’s completely unrelated to anything in the social impact or sustainability space. Right. But one of the gems that that particular podcaster shared with me was that, you know, she got a lot of feedback from their audience that they needed to have a call to action at the end, like the audience wanted something to do.

And when I thought about specifically, you know, in the social impact or sustainability space, I should be providing the audience with tools, things that they can do, action items that they can take on themselves to feel like they’re putting more good out into the world. So what I tend to do in that space is I’ll feature some of the guests’ products if they have a particular

product or even just if there is a petition that should be signed something along those lines, I would put that there as well. I thought back to when I was nine years old and the first time I went door to door to get signatures is kind of the inspiration for that, you know, like trying to combat animal testing or something at that young age. When I think my aspiration in life was to be a veterinarian.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah. I mean, that, that, that’s powerful because especially if, if you’ve got the type of audience who’s interested in these types of of the, of issues and, and hearing more about them and probably, you know, it makes sense to have a call to action that it makes people feel like it’s a concrete thing that they can do to make a difference and at least take the first step towards working with a cause that they, that they care about.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. And sometimes it’s, you know, raising funds for somebody. So like if you’re looking at a particular charity that might need some support right now, and I’ve just featured them and the call to action could be, Hey, if you can afford it, you know, buy him a cup of coffee, give him five bucks, you know, participate in the recurring donation.

The reality is that charities have really struggled this last year in particular. I mean, some have fared okay, but many charities have relied on more of these kinds of fundraising events, where they would bring people together and do fundraisers and moving that all into the virtual space has worked for some.

And not for others as much. So it’s been very variable from what I hear pretty consistently is that they’re just not necessarily getting the airtime with their audience who are screen fatigued, and don’t really want to participate in yet another event online. So understanding that and trying to take it one step forward, then it’s, you know, how do you help them raise funds?

How do you help them reach an audience and how do you help them engage with that audience in a new way? You know, maybe it’s as simple as them even donating their time. If they don’t have funds to donate, they could offer to be administrative support for one of those charities. I actually talked about this in an episode that will air this week.

And that is with Lasagna Love. I mean, they are a charity that brings, you know, lasagnas to people who might need them. And all that it takes in that instance is someone raises their hand and says, I need help. And it doesn’t have to be financial need. It doesn’t have to be any particular need, but someone in the community then says, I can make a lasagna and they match those individuals together.

But you know, they’re a volunteer organization. So all of the work that gets done for them is essentially done by volunteers. And so much of that is administrative. A lot of it is automated now because they have some incredible backend technology that, you know, scholars from MIT helped to create for them. Really, really great stuff. But ultimately they have needs too. So if a particular individual is like, well, I don’t have funds to give, but I want to give back in some way they could bake a lasagna for somebody or they could support one of these charities with some of their time as well.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, so many different ways to give back. Oh, that is awesome. So you’ve been working and publishing episodes on podcasts since we said since January. So we’re recording this towards the end of March. So it’s only, it’s been a couple months and I know you’ve got several episodes already released. I’m curious about the process of sort of what it was like to start, like kind of maybe what was what’d you say was like the biggest challenge or unexpected thing that you faced when you were either like getting ready to launch or as you were launching and kind of, how did you address it or learn from it?

Corinna Bellizzi: I think the biggest challenge is one I’m still facing and that’s that I can be a little hypercritical of myself. And so I, you know, particularly when I’m looking at how I’m going to form the story arc of every interview, I try to spend time with the person in an interview a little bit before. So we get comfortable craft some questions that I hope will lead to the conversation in a great way.

And that takes quite a bit of time. And I think half the time I’m just beating myself up going, I’m not, you know, I’m not doing this right. Or I could be doing this better or if I had more time and the reality is in the end, I’ve been pleased with almost every episode. You know, generally speaking, I might’ve said “um” too many times or used some other colloquialism that on hindsight. I was like, well, I wish I hadn’t said that, or I wish I’d said that differently. Or if I’d just done this, then I might feel more comfortable putting it up on YouTube. And ultimately I just made the decision to say, as long as it’s not garbled and terrible, I’m putting it out there. Because the purpose of the show I keep coming back to that is to put more good into the world.

And so if the podcast is achieving that in some way, then I’m just trying to remind myself to be less of my own enemy, less self-critical, give myself a round of applause for even doing it. And I think that’s important. It’s, you know, it’s not a small effort. It takes a bit of time. A lot of networking.

I actually love that about it because it’s forced me to, you know, rip the bandaid off and just talk to people I want to talk to. Some, what’s the worst thing they could say that they don’t want to come on the show? Okay. Yeah. You know, So that’s all been really, really kind of, I don’t know, uplifting. There’s been an unexpected benefit and I just edited a podcast that I’m hoping to release in a few weeks, if I can fix some of the audio troubles, where we talk about this and that is the mental health benefit. I did not expect that communicating in this way with other people would bring me a sense of connection that I had lost in COVID. I didn’t realize how much I had lost. I didn’t realize the effect that, that had had on me from kind of a, a personal positivity perspective, even.

And so just on the heels of recording, you know, episodes into the teens, I was like, wow. You know, I’m not only more inspired, I’m feeling better. I’m feeling more connected to people. I’m getting a sense that I’m building a community that’s meaningful. And so I feel like it’s like, I’ve reclaimed my purpose in the midst of this period where, you know, some days everything can just feel a little worse than the day before, because you haven’t been able to hug your loved one because I haven’t been able to travel to Colorado to see my mom for two years now.

And you know, all of those things weigh on one after a while and they just start to kind of make you feel a little less. Like you’re living a little less. So I feel like this move, the shift that started in January has brought me to living more again. And I just have this hope with the show that I’m able to convey some of that and get people involved in thinking about how to connect differently in this age, when you know, we’ve been forced into a situation that has been really rough from just a connection perspective. We are a social species. I mean, this is my background, my undergrad speaking, I studied anthropology, right? Like human connection, how people, you know, are able to build societies and from tribalism to, you know, kind of this country oriented world where, you know, you see people in England, Ireland, US all speaking a common language, but divided by great space. And now people are kind of going online or they’re going through podcasts to connect with one another again. And to, I just think that there’s something beautiful about that.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I totally relate to the mental health benefits that having the podcast and particularly an interview style podcast has had during this time, because yeah, like I’ve met I’ve, you know, I’ve I said I’ve, I’ve had people on my show that like, normally I would, like people I wanted to connect with and wanted to talk with, but never really had like another excuse or another way to organically, you know, kind of bump into them somewhere or connect, but having the podcast is a great way to you know, to just learn more about people. And a lot of the people I’ve interviewed and, and met through podcasting have been really consistent friends throughout this, this difficult time. So yeah, it’s it’s, it’s definitely helps build some strong bonds and yeah, I’m, I’m glad it’s doing that for you as well.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. And unexpected friendships are forming because of it. You know, it’s like I’m speaking to people that are from Africa and England and Australia, and just, it’s made me feel more like I’m being a good citizen of the world than I think I’ve felt in a long time.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, well that, that’s just yeah, that’s really powerful. It it, it really is a great way to, to connect and, and share with common things and things that we hold dear and have in common. Absolutely. So you know, in, in the couple months that you’ve been running the podcast, what kind of feedback have you gotten about it, or any kind of stories around that you want to share?

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. You know, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive and I almost sometimes wish people would tell me what they didn’t like, because, you know, I feel like, you know, if you want to improve, you’re not going to do that in a vacuum. You need feedback in order to really grow. So one of the things I did with another, another person that I interviewed, who also has a podcast.

I gave her a list of two, and I just said, could you please be critical and give me some feedback? So I was able to take that and run with it. I think that I’m producing better shows now, given that feedback. But the positives are really kind of amazing, you know, I can recognize when I’m looking at the Apple podcast reviews, some of the handles, I am like, Oh, that’s this friend.

Oh, that’s this friend. So, you know, that’s nice. But then I see some that I can’t figure out who they are and they don’t sound like they know me. And they’re saying things like, you know, this, I love the range of topics that are covered. This show really gets me thinking, wow. And. You know, that’s what I want to be doing.

I want to be offering people, you know, A new perspective or a new idea, maybe something they haven’t thought about from a social impact or sustainability perspective, or maybe it’s something they have, but it’s a new light or a new way. My hope is that it will inspire them into action and that action could be, you know, something in their own lives or it could be, Hey, they could create the next big idea in social entrepreneurship that affects us positively. They could, you know, create something, some business that gives back to their community and brings value to people around them. You know, if we are able to take anything away from a simple effort, like this podcast that I create on a weekly basis and turn it into something good, then I just, I feel like I’ve done something meaningful and and I’m getting that sort of feedback already, which makes me feel inspired to keep going. Even as I obsessively look at how many downloads I’ve had for that particular show. And I, I have to remind myself too, sometimes, you know, Hey, some shows may be listened to less than others.

Is it really fun to listen to stories of financial technology? Maybe not for some. Is it overly female to be talking about a particular issue like reproductive health? Maybe, you know, maybe there’s not going to be as many guys who want to tune it into that one. So I have to give myself a little leeway to, to grow the show and talk about these different topics.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah. It’s tough to get stuck on watching the downloads and the statistics. And I think we all kind of get into that. Oh, what’s going on?

Corinna Bellizzi: Don’t look.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, I just, I stopped looking consistently. I’m like when I, when I go into load up a new episode, then I’ll kind of look at the numbers and say like, okay, I can kind of see where the trends were that people were, what days they were listening and when they were going.

But yeah, but yeah. It’s important to focus on the content and to, to share content that you’re passionate about. Because, I mean, I think that’s the most important thing, because that will help you find even more of the audience who really cares about these topics and takes them to heart.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah, that’s right.

And you know, honestly, it’s, I’m getting to play in all these different areas that I have passions. So it’s been really fun. I mean, I think I would say that to anybody who was thinking about starting a podcast, like if they’re interested in the medium, if they like the idea, maybe they should give it a try. It’s not that much of an investment if you’re doing most of the editing on your own. You might get a microphone, make sure you have, I mean, heck you can use zoom to do these recordings. So it’s not a huge investment. It’s mostly time. I think that’s the reality for me at least.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It’s it’s definitely something to try out. And there is sort of a, I say a low barrier for entry. There’s so many, there’s like so many different types of technology and apps and recording things that people can now do.

Corinna Bellizzi: It can be a little overwhelming.

Carolyn Kiel: It is. Yeah, but that’s maybe that’s the other issue. I mean, when I, when I started mine about three years ago or so there was, there was a lot, but there was a much less than there is now.

So in some ways, I guess that made it a little easier. Yeah. Yeah. No, that’s, that’s really, really great. So, you know, as you kind of look forward, do you kind of have more long-term goals for your podcasts? Like in terms of certain topics you want to focus on or just other types of impacts that you want to have?

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. You know, I think about the show. I look at it as an invitation. I really want to be building a community that just invites people to care a little more so we can all be a little better. And so my goal for the podcast is to really work to create that community. And I haven’t truly defined what that is going to look like over the long haul.

Like I think you saw me awkwardly in a room on Clubhouse, trying to figure out that platform and how it connects with people. You know, I’m trying new things. I’m trying to discover how to further these conversations, connect with more people and try to build that sense of community. I want to take suggestions from the audience of topics they’d like to see covered more or things that they care about. I’m looking at education a lot. I feel like especially as college tuitions have continued to increase, education is almost getting more out of reach or at least a standard four year education is getting more out of reach for a lot of Americans and people around the globe who don’t have the same access to world-class education.

So those are topics I will likely dig more into. I think about longterm, perhaps even creating an endowment or becoming a not-for-profit and that’s something I would consider if this gets to a stage where it looks like it warrants that. For now, I’m just trying to push other people’s successes a little further and help amplify their efforts so that we can have more impact now as opposed to waiting for that day.

So that’s, I think overall how I see it. I want to build that community. And I want to get people involved.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah. That’s important. And yeah, I think the, the community is something that is. You know, I, I, I think it’s interesting. And, and sometimes that does take a while to actually build out whether you’re kind of choosing a platform on how to connect people.

And now those, of course, there’s all these different types of tools. So I think it’s great that you’re trying out different ones and kind of seeing like where people show up and which ones kind of make the most organic sense to, to bring people together. But yeah, I think that’ll be great if you can kind of bring together a community of people who want to help and support all of these great causes and learn more about them. Yeah.

Corinna Bellizzi: I mean, I have even thought about, you know, do I, at one stage, have a cohost or, you know, somebody else who also is on the platform on a different show or something like that? I mean, that’s, I’m, I’d be open. I’m just kind of trying to, especially as I finished graduate school, which is taking a good deal of my focus, I’ve got 11 weeks left and then I will be done.

Carolyn Kiel: Wow, awesome!

Corinna Bellizzi: So in this time, I’m just if anything kind of treading water, just keep going with the same deal that I’ve got. I’ve got several episodes canned, get them released, take care of that. And then after that is over come June, I can consider taking another look at it and saying, you know, what would I change?

What would I do differently? Do I want to use a different technology or platform or, I don’t know, create events? I mean, if we’re all able to get in person again, you know, once we have this pandemic a little more under control, perhaps I will create an event where I bring people together that care about social causes and and have speakers on a stage. I mean, that could be the next phase. I’m just trying to keep my brain wide open and see where it takes me from here.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah, no, I think that’s good to just try out different things and and you know, cause it, you’re still pretty early in the process, so there’s all these different opportunities and different directions you could take. So yeah, that’s exciting. So many different ways to make an impact. Wow.

Corinna Bellizzi: I was going to ask you, I mean, you’ve been in this podcast sphere for a while, a few years now. I mean what has made your favorite podcasts, your favorite podcasts?

Carolyn Kiel: I think for me a lot of times, it’s, you know, kind of the connection and the chemistry that I have with the guest.

And a lot of times that’s related to their story that they have, that I just am really like, especially personally inspired by it, or I just think it’s so unique and, and just, you know, not something that I’ve heard a lot in, in a lot of, a lot of other venues and yeah, I think that anyone who can tell a really good and clear and candid story about themselves. That that’s the, that’s the type of content that I really enjoy in terms of just hearing people share. And, and if that means that their stories aren’t as like super polished, like they’re not like out on the podcast touring circle, like giving the same rehearsed speech and such. I kind of like it when it’s a little bit rough and they’re kind of thinking through it and they’re sharing a lot of, you know, raw and, and candid and really powerful details about their stories. I just think it makes people more relatable. So those are, those are my favorite types of guests.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. I, I think I would agree with you, you know, when people are just kind of speaking from the heart and that’s what counts, it’s the things it’s, there’s this mantra in marketing: people may not remember what you tell them, but they remember how you make them feel. And I think when people are speaking from the heart and when they’re talking about something that really fires them up, it gets you feeling that feeling. And that’s what you kind of take with you into your day. But what I was asking about is like, outside of even your own podcasts, like if you are listening to podcasts, what makes, what makes your, what makes a podcast like a favorite for you? Is it, is it the personality or is it the story? I mean, I’m just so always, so curious about that.

Carolyn Kiel: I think for me, it’s the, it’s really the story. And some of the podcasts I listen to that are more like, Interview style, some, I mean, some of them are, are very highly produced where there’s like segments and there’s like clips of interviews and it’s around, you know, sort of a stream of a story.

And those I like, because they’re kind of relatively short episodes, but they kind of introduce like someone who’s solved a problem. So like, literally, Problem Solvers by Jason Feifer is one of my favorites because it’s focused on, you know, one entrepreneur, a particular, a specific problem that they had and intersplices interviews, and maybe some stock clips and other things, and kind of very, the host helps narrate and tell the story of what the challenge was and how they overcame it.

So yeah, so those are, those are my favorite, but those take those take a lot of time to edit together. So I don’t, I don’t know.

Corinna Bellizzi: I mean, they, they have whole teams working on those, you know, Yeah. I was thinking about This American life, when you said that, you know, pulling all these segments together, I mean, it’s such an incredibly produced show. Yeah. And you know, I think too, it’s the the story is everything, right? So it’s just, when, when you have a really good story, you want to keep listening. You want to hear what comes next. There’s one that I have discovered recently, and I don’t want to say it because I don’t know if your show allows cussing.

Carolyn Kiel: Oh, we’ll put it in explicit. We’ll put an explicit rating on it if we cuss.

Corinna Bellizzi: Because I don’t even know if it’s, I think you can say it on TV, but it’s Behind the Bastards.

Carolyn Kiel: I think that’s okay. I think that’s okay for Apple Podcasts I don’t know that that counts as a curse word.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. So that show in particular, it takes awful people from history and tells deep stories about them.

So I just got finished listening to one and it was about I’m I’m forgetting the man’s name, but it was about this individual who tried to become a king in the Southeast Asian islands. Somewhere around there. Like, I want to say it was somewhere like near the near Borneo. Right? And so he’s this white man who wants to become a King and they are now telling his story through Hollywood in a highly produced, polished perspective.

And it’s nothing of the story that they told from this behind the bastards perspective. Anyway. A great show. Great stories. Fun to listen to and completely off topic.

Carolyn Kiel: Oh, that’s cool. I haven’t heard of that one. So I’ll definitely check that one out. Yeah, no, I love those stories. You know, of, of, you know, either sort of undiscovered history or retellings of things, or sort of re re looking at something that you thought you understood because you learned about it one way and it’s like, no, actually there’s like this whole other narrative and all these things that, you know, maybe you didn’t know, or just weren’t shared at the time.

So I think it’s really cool. Right. Good stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I think there’s a lot of room for you know, for us to, in the podcasting world to experiment and try different things. And it sounds like that’s going along the lines of what you’re going to be doing. You’ve got a lot of different ideas and things to try and and you know, there’s plenty of time it’s you know, podcasting it, you know, as you know, it takes a while. Like I’m three years in, I still don’t feel like, you know, a veteran of any kind at this point, but I do feel certainly more comfortable with, with what I’m doing, but I’m still constantly learning and constantly trying out different things as we get new technologies and new platforms and just kind of seeing what works so well.

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah. Well, but you’ve, you’ve stayed true to your mission, right? You’re going beyond the first impression of the first six seconds. And I think that’s what I intend to do with my show is just keep it focused on social impact and sustainability. And then I can listen to This American Life for other stories I can listen to behind the bastards and the stories that they’re telling of, you know, these disreputable people from long, long ago. Yeah, so it, it’s just such an interesting playing field. The whole arena of podcasting. I think it can make people feel closer to one another just by listening. Which is really kind of great.

Carolyn Kiel: It is. Yeah. Especially during these challenging times, it’s really good way to stay, to stay close. I think I tweeted the other day that I kind of, you know, a lot of my friends now hosts podcasts, and sometimes I listen not just to hear what the episode is and what they have to say, but because it’s just comforting to hear the sound of their voices, like in my earbuds.

So I was like, Oh, that’s so nice.

Corinna Bellizzi: So, so I have a story about that. There’s one of my friends worked for years at Plantronics and they make my earbud. It’s like a wireless earbud. And I have this one that’s old that I don’t want to get rid of because it has one of my friend’s voices on it. And it’s every time it says, talk time, six hours, you know, it’s in her voice.

Carolyn Kiel: Wow! I didn’t even know it was like a person’s voice! I just thought…

Corinna Bellizzi: In her case yes, it was a, it was her voice and because she was on the marketing team forever. And so she recorded it and I don’t get to hear her voice much anymore because she moved to Ireland. And so I’m like, well, I just, I can’t lose this thing. So I have this really crazy attachment, this simple Plantronics earbud that I just never want to lose.

Carolyn Kiel: Wow. That’s awesome. Wow. That’s cool. That’s very cool. Yeah. I had no idea that that was actually…

Corinna Bellizzi:  It’s not Siri.

Carolyn Kiel: Oh, awesome. Wow. So yeah, Corinna thanks so much for being on my podcast. How can people get in touch with you or, or find your podcast so that they can listen to it?

Corinna Bellizzi: Yeah, it’s pretty. Yeah. I’m at, Care More Be Better on all social platforms. On Twitter and clubhouse you just have to leave out the final E because they have a character limit, so it’s CareMoreBeBettr. I also have CareMoreBeBetter.com. That’s my website and you can find connections to everywhere we are there. There’s a button to connect with us. You can send me an email right from the website, or just send me a note to hello at CareMoreBeBetter.com, and I’d love to hear from people. If there’s any topics they want to hear covered, or if they know someone that they think should be interviewed, I’d love to connect. I just this is a community I’m trying to build it. This isn’t something I’m monetizing. It’s just my way of giving more good to the world.

Carolyn Kiel: All right. Fantastic. Yeah, I’ll put those links in the show notes so that people can click on those easily and get in touch with you and listen to the show.

Corinna Bellizzi: Thank you so much.

Carolyn Kiel: Awesome. Sure. So as we close out, is there anything else that you’d like our listeners to know or anything that they can help or support you with?

Corinna Bellizzi: You know, I would just say, find something that you’re really passionate about that you’d like to give back into the world, because it doesn’t take much. I mean, it could be as simple as, you know, doing a food drive in your neighborhood or, you know, donating a little bit of your time to a charity that you’re passionate about. You’ll feel good doing it. And if nothing else it’ll help you also build new friendships.

Carolyn Kiel: Yeah. Very very good word, words of wisdom there. Wow. Great. Thank you so much, Corinna it was great talking to you today.

Corinna Bellizzi: Great talking to you too. Thank you so much.

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